MEDHELP译文之1（关于男男WTZDKJ)
By xinlang | Jun 08, 2012BlankI mostly am a heterosexual and having avery stable and healthy sex relationship. But I am curious about homosexualactivity every now and then, especially in older guys. on 7 June, I had my first experience withan older gay man, he is kind of a professor in language. We met and had oralsex, both giving and receiving. I gave it about 4-5 times, 1 minute each timetops. I tasted the pre-cum from him, but didn't swallow any. He ejaculated, notin my mouth, on my hand, one of my fingers has a minor cut sized as a sesame. Iam quite sure there was no obvious cut or bleeding in my mouth, but I am notsure if there was any micro bleeding. Right after that, I spit a lot, andbrushed my teeth and wash my mouth with Listerine after about half an hour. Since he is an old gay man, I am 100% surehe had many more homosexual experiences than me, I am worried that he mighthave HIV. So I text him today to check, he reply me that he is clean, nocontagiousdisease, but not in a very cooperativeor straightforward way, feels like being offended by me. He also told me thathe is in good health, from what I have seen, likely so. Because this is my first time with a man, Iam worried about HIV. How is the chances that I might get infected? What shouldI do next?Xinlang(提问者)：我大部分是一个异性恋，有一个非常稳定和健康的性关系。但我对同性恋活动充满好奇，尤其是在老年人。在6月7日，我有了第一次经验，与一个年纪大的同性恋男子，他是一位语言教授。我们相识并有过KJ，主动和被动。我主动大约4-5次，每次最多1分钟。我尝到了前列腺液，但没有吞下。他没有射在我的嘴里，我用手帮他，我的一个手指有一个芝麻大小的伤口。我很肯定我的嘴上没有明显的开放性伤口，但我不知道是否有细微损伤。完事之后，我吐了几次痰，约半小时后我刷牙漱口。因为他是一个老同性恋，我100%肯定他有比我多的同性恋经历，我担心他可能有艾滋。所以今天我给他发短信，他回答我说他是干净的，没有传染性的疾病，但回答的很不友好，感觉好像因为我误解他了。他还告诉我，他身体健康，从我所看到的，可能是真的。因为这是我第一次和一个男人在一起，我很担心艾滋。我可能会被感染吗？我下一步该怎么办？1、LIZZIE LOU：
nothing that you have described put you at risk for hiv.
please read the forum...it is FULL of posts regarding oral sex.
根据你所描述的情况你不可能感染HIV。
请看论坛……这里有很多关于KJ的帖子。
2、xinlang to LIZZIE LOU：
Thanks for your reply Lizzie.
But even if this guy has HIV, I'm still in no risk for HIV?
谢谢你的回复丽齐。
但即使这家伙有艾滋,我仍然没有艾滋的风险吗?
3、RainLover71 Toxinlang：
Even if he has HIV and a high viral load it's still no risk.
即使他有艾滋毒且病毒载量很高你也没有风险。
4、xinlang To RainLover71：
Thanks RainLover71, I think I am now quite panicked by this stupid action of mine to meet this guy.
I am now still trying to ask him for a definitive answer of his HIV status. And will definitely have a test after 2 or 3 weeks.
My question is, is it accurate enough to check after 2 weeks of exposure?
谢谢RainLover71,我觉得我现在很恐慌,我用愚蠢的行动来满足这个家伙。
我现在仍在努力让他明确的告送我艾滋状况。我肯定会在2或3周后测试。
我的问题是,接触后2周的结果足够准确吗?
5、TEAK:
You don't have an HIV concern and had you, 2 weeks post exposure is way to early to test.
你没有感染艾滋的风险,2周测试有点早。
6、RainLover71：
Again--you had no risk.Had you had a risk 4 weeks would be a good time to test.
再说一次，你没有风险。4周才是比较准确的测试时间。
7、xinlang to teak:
Thanks Teak, but still, how the early symptoms of inflection could be?
I have read from internet that it could be like flu, and it takes two weeks for these symptoms to appear?
谢谢teak,早期症状如何?
我从网上看的,它可以像流感,并持续两周吗?
8、xinlang:
My concerns are actually worrying about pass the virus to my beloved girlfriend.
My guilt of having this stupid contact with that man is killing me. If I had it infected, my personal health or life is not a problem to me, I deserve it, but I will most likely to kill myself if I pass the virus to my girl.
我担心的其实是把病毒传递给我的女朋友。
我内疚我的愚蠢。如果我有感染,我个人健康或生命对我不是问题,我应得的,但是我很可能会害死我的女朋友。
9、RainLover71：
You were lucky that you had no risk but I suggest you be faithful to your gf now.Guilt can cause high anxiety.Relax,you made a mistake now it's over--don't repeat this.
你很幸运,你没有风险,但我建议你从现在开始忠诚于你的女朋友。内疚会造成高度焦虑。放松,你不要重复错误。
10、xinlang To RainLover71：
Thank you for your comforting words.
I will to be 200% faithful to my girl, from this day on. Never mess up with any other person any more, male or female.
Curiosity kill cats is a very true saying, curious about having an experience with a male is fxxking stupid. I am worried because I always think that although according to various articles or posts, you guys said that oral sex is not at risk of getting infected, but I might be the exception.
I shall have it tested after 4 weeks to confirm.
谢谢你的安慰的话。
我将从今天开始200%忠实于我的女朋友。不在是自己陷入恐慌。
好奇心杀死猫是一种非常真实的传说,好奇与男性是愚蠢。我很担心,因为我总是认为,尽管根据各种文章或者帖子,你们说KJ不是被感染的风险,但我可能是例外。
我要4周后进行测试确认。
11、xinlang:
Stupid enough, even though I had some emotional contact with other women, but I never physically cheated my gf with other women. This is the first time I had a contact outside of my relationship, and it is a male.
Is it risky that his semen did touched my finger with small cut?
愚蠢的我有一些想接触其他女性,但我从来没有背叛我的女朋友。这是我第一次接出轨，而且还是一个男性。
他的精液沾到我的手指小伤口了有风险吗?
12、RainLover71：
No it's not a risk.Just be faithful--you have learned your lesson.Stay safe.
这不是一个风险。应该忠实,你得到了教训。以后保持安全。
13、xinlang To RainLover71：
Surely yes, I have learned my lesson. I will stay faithful and safe...
No matter how many times I have expressed, I still would like to say, Thank you.
当然,我吸取教训。我将一直保持忠诚和安全…
无论我表达了多少次,我还是想说,谢谢你。
14、RainLover71：
You're welcome--Take care.
你的小心是正确的。
15、LIZZIE LOU：
FROM THE HIV EXPERTS HERE AT MEDHELP:
"As you know from other posts about oral sex, our stance is that giving or receiving oral sex is not a risk for HIV.Some others suggest that there is an appreciable risk of HIV from oral sex however, there are no convincing scientific reports which support these statements.The presence of a burn in your mouth, or a sore, or ingestion of blood does not change this.Still no risk an no reason for testing."DR HOOK
"As far as HIV is concerned, there is no known risk of getting HIV from performing oral sex on an infected partner, even if that person's genital secretions get into your eyes or if you swallow"DR HOOK
There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex.The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way.Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk".There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANDSFIELD
"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex.Please educate yourself about the real risks.If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANDSFIELD
"I am sure you can find lots of people who belive that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK
"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK
in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA
The observation on thousand and thousand of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort).DR. HOOK
"With regard to the question you ask, I will repeat, as I’ve said more times than I can think- there are NO credible cases in which persons have acquired HIV through performance of oral sex- none!!.The chance that you will be the first is ridiculously low.You are more likely to be hit by lightening while reading my reply to you. DR HOOK
"HIV is not spread by masturbation, through oral sex, through kissing or other casual contact." DR HOOK
"There is no credible evidence that HIV is spread through oral sex, with or without the presence of cuts or blood in the persons mouth."- DR HOOK
"Oral sex. there is no evidence that HIV is spread through giving or receiving oral sex"- DR HOOK
"HIV is not spread through oral sex."DR HOOK
"HIV is not spread through giving or receiving oral sex" DR HOOK
MEDHELP艾滋专家意见是:
“当你从其他帖子了解KJ,我们的立场是,给予或者接受KJ不是传播艾滋毒的途径。一些人认为, KJ感染HIV有明显的风险，然而,没有令人信服的科学报告,支持这些言论。有口腔疾病,或摄入的血液不会改变这一点。仍然没有一个没有理由说明需要测试。“DR HOOK
“对艾滋而言,尚无从KJ感染HIV病毒的案例,即使这个人的生殖器分泌物进入你的眼睛或如果你吞下“博士
没有专家说KJ对艾滋完全没有风险。风险非常低,几乎没有有过一个病人认为是通过KJ感染。在专家中, “没有风险”和“非常低的风险”。我没有区别,DR HOOK的使用“低风险”和其他专家的“没有风险”。
HANDSFIELD博士
“KJ是安全的性行为,完全安全对艾滋毒和其他性传播疾病虽然不是零风险,感染的几率远低于无保护的阴道或肛交。请教育自己的真实风险。如果你坚持KJ和condom-protected阴道或肛交,你不用担心艾滋毒，很少忧虑和担心其他性传播疾病。”HANDSFIELD博士
“我相信你能找到很多人相信通过KJ传染,但你不会找到科学数据支持这种不切实际的担忧……“DR HOOK
“艾滋毒并不通过接触传播,手淫, KJ或安全套性保护。DR HOOK
在公共艾滋毒预防MedHelp论坛、TEAK和其他各种形式的版主认为KJ是一个零风险的活动。你会同意这个评估吗?
我完全同意/加西亚博士
我研究又研究,艾滋毒并不通过KJ传播(任何类型的)。DR HOOK
“关于你问的问题,我已经重复多次，我认为——没有可信的证据说明,人通过KJ的性能获得了艾滋毒——没有! !。的机会,你将会是第一个是低得离谱。你更有可能被闪电击中而阅读我给你的回复。DR HOOK
“艾滋毒不是由自慰传播,通过KJ,通过接吻或其他偶然接触。“DR HOOK
“没有可信的证据表明,艾滋病毒通过KJ传播,有或没有削减或血液的存在的人的嘴。博士”—— DR HOOK
“KJ。没有证据表明HIV传播通过给予或接受KJ”—— DR HOOK
“艾滋毒并不通过KJ传播。“DR HOOK
“艾滋毒并不通过给予或接受KJ传播“DR HOOK
16、xinlang To: LIZZIE LOU
Thanks Lizzie!
Anxiety is painful...
谢谢丽齐!
焦虑是痛苦的…
17、xinlang To: LIZZIE LOU
Big problem !!!
Today one of my teeth bleeds out of blue, then I remember this tooth frequently bleeds, like once in a week. I am sure that day I performed oral, it was not bleeding, but I don't know if there was a wound or cut still there，I mean, I don't know since it was not bleeding if there was skin covering the wound?
There was no semen in my mouth since he didn't ejaculate into my mouth, only pre-cum, no blood from that guy either.
Does this raise the risk to a much higher chance?
大问题! ! !
今天我的一个牙齿出血,我记得这颗牙齿经常出血,一次一个星期。我确信那一天我进行KJ时不出血,但我不知道有没有细微的粘膜破损。
他没有SJ在我的嘴里,也没有血。
这有更高的风险吗?
18、LIZZIE LOU ：
"There is no credible evidence that HIV is spread through oral sex, with or without the presence of cuts or blood in the persons mouth."- DR HOOK
now move along...you had no risk and we are not going to keep repeating ourselves.
“没有可信的证据表明,艾滋病毒是通过KJ播,不管有没有血液在嘴里。DR HOOK
最后再重复一次…你没有风险,我们不会再不断地重复我们的观点。
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